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  • Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

    Fresh off a Frozen Four appearance, only 5 players graduated, 12 experienced seniors and 9 new freshman:

    Ryan Walker D Fr. 6-3 210 Kenai River (NAHL) Detroit, MI
    Jordan Hanth D Fr. 6-2 210 NH Monarchs (EJHL) Chester Springs, PA
    Kevin Kirisits D Fr. 6-4 225 Brockville (CCHL) Buffalo, NY
    Jide Idowa D Fr. 6-1 200 Carleton Place (CCHL) Copper City, FL
    Luc Boby F Fr. 6-3 210 Kalamazoo (NAHL) Oswego, IL
    Easton Powers F Fr. 5-10 195 Port Huron (NAHL) South Lyon, MI
    Zac Lazzaro F Fr. 5-8 170 Kenai River (NAHL) Aston, PA
    Mikhail Bushinski F Fr. 5-10 170 Kenai River (NAHL) Woodbury, MN
    Marcus Zelzer G Fr. 6-3 200 Kenai River (NAHL) Green Bay, WI

    2 weeks to go before 'Lewiston or Bust' begins...
    Last edited by jcase; 10-20-2013, 10:55 AM.

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    Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

    The seven top scorers from an explosive team return, too, and Santiago is (thankfully) still on the roster. (UC didn't have him for most of last season, but he's a huge threat when he actually plays.)

    Seems to me that Heenan has made the right moves. Utica's D has been a little shaky for years, and Gary has recruited beef on the blue-line. Assuming that the incoming guys are all over-aged and can skate backwards a little, Utica should land on a level playing-field with the UWECs of D-3.

    All cynicism aside, Utica is loaded for bear on-paper, and this season could be better than the last... We're seriously considering making the drive to Rochester for the opener v. Naz.
    Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-19-2013, 09:56 AM.

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    • #3
      Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

      Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
      Seems to me that Heenan has made the right moves. Utica's D has been a little shaky for years, and Gary has recruited beef on the blue-line. Assuming that the incoming guys are all over-aged and can skate backwards a little, Utica should land on a level playing-field with the UWECs of D-3.
      You act as if Uticas roster isn't full of guys who spent two or three years in juniors. They are the same age as any of the top teams or any team that is full of experienced junior guys. Either get over it or go look it up yourself and then get over it when you realize your point is, as usual, pointless.

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        Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

        All you need is here.
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        • #5
          Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

          Originally posted by NorthernBlight View Post
          You act as if Uticas roster isn't full of guys who spent two or three years in juniors. They are the same age as any of the top teams or any team that is full of experienced junior guys. Either get over it or go look it up yourself and then get over it when you realize your point is, as usual, pointless.
          What's the address of that site that lists player DOB's again? Thanks.

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          • #6
            http://www.hockeydb.com/

            Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
            What's the address of that site that lists player DOB's again? Thanks.
            http://www.patriottreeco.com

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            • #7
              Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

              Crossing the Great Divide (aka the Hudson River)
              2012-13 Western New England
              2011-12 None
              2010-11 Suffolk & Wentworth (same weekend)
              2009-10 None
              2008-09 Mass-Dartmouth
              2007-08 None
              2006-07 Times-Argus (Norwich/URI), Williams
              2005-06 St. Mike's Tournament (J&W, Neumann)
              2004-05 None
              2003-04 Wentworth & J&W (same weekend)

              Gotta do better than that.
              CCT '77 & '78
              4 kids
              5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
              1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

              ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
              - Benjamin Franklin

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              I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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              • #8
                Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

                Originally posted by jcase View Post
                Fresh off a Frozen Four appearance, only 5 players graduated, 12 experienced seniors and 8 new freshman:

                Ryan Walker D Fr. 6-3 210 Kenai River (NAHL) Detroit, MI
                Jordan Hanth D Fr. 6-2 210 NH Monarchs (EJHL) Chester Springs, PA
                Kevin Kirisits D Fr. 6-4 225 Brockville (CCHL) Buffalo, NY
                Jide Idowa D Fr. 6-1 200 Carleton Place (CCHL) Copper City, FL
                Luc Boby F Fr. 6-3 210 Kalamazoo (NAHL) Oswego, IL
                Easton Powers F Fr. 5-10 195 Port Huron (NAHL) South Lyon, MI
                Zac Lazzaro F Fr. 5-8 170 Kenai River (NAHL) Aston, PA
                Mikhail Bushinski F Fr. 5-10 170 Kenai River (NAHL) Woodbury, MN
                Marcus Zelzer G Fr. 6-3 200 Kenai River (NAHL) Green Bay, WI

                2 weeks to go before 'Lewiston or Bust' begins...
                eliteprospects has the Kirisits Dman as going to Clarkson for the 2014-2015 season??? must have stole a good one??...the rest look good on paper,not to mention BIG..

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                • #9
                  Nahl

                  Someone better versed in US Jr Hockey help me out here. Seems as though UC gets a ton of NAHL recruits, many more than any other Eastern program; and more than most Western colleges!?

                  My recollection is that the NAHL was the 2nd tier US league after the USHL. Anyone know how the NAHL compares in quality to the CJHL leagues from which most Eastern teams recruit?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by elbojpb View Post
                    Someone better versed in US Jr Hockey help me out here. Seems as though UC gets a ton of NAHL recruits, many more than any other Eastern program; and more than most Western colleges!?

                    My recollection is that the NAHL was the 2nd tier US league after the USHL. Anyone know how the NAHL compares in quality to the CJHL leagues from which most Eastern teams recruit?
                    http://nahl.com/news/story.cfm?id=3035
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                    • #11
                      Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Crossing the Great Divide (aka the Hudson River)
                      2012-13 Western New England
                      2011-12 None
                      2010-11 Suffolk & Wentworth (same weekend)
                      2009-10 None
                      2008-09 Mass-Dartmouth
                      2007-08 None
                      2006-07 Times-Argus (Norwich/URI), Williams
                      2005-06 St. Mike's Tournament (J&W, Neumann)
                      2004-05 None
                      2003-04 Wentworth & J&W (same weekend)

                      Gotta do better than that.
                      No, you don't... Not if the UC -and the W as a whole- continue to dominate OOC teams, while UC wins a lot of W contests and enjoys some success in their very important annual games v. Oswego. (That's pretty-much how SOS works: you try to beat teams that beat a lot of other teams, right?)

                      If your point is that Utica plays a few crap-teams every year, well, so what; that much is inevitable playing a D-3 schedule in the East. There are a bunch of crap-teams out here, and UC is by no means playing more than their fair share of them, while playing multiple games against the top-tier.

                      It's really not that hard to figure-out, Joe. The only consistent juggernauts East of the Hudson are NU and Platty anyway, and they reportedly don't have enough wiggle-room to schedule anybody in the W with regularity... Ergo, Utica plays about as tough a schedule as it can possibly arrange.

                      (And, just for fun, I'll ask you the same question that has gone unanswered so many times by so many trolls: Who in the East played against a tougher slate than did Utica last season, in your opinion?)
                      Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-20-2013, 02:04 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

                        Originally posted by OSU2010 View Post
                        Thanks for both of the good reads.
                        Last edited by Fishman'81; 10-20-2013, 02:04 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                          (And, just for fun, I'll ask you the same question that has gone unanswered so many times by so many trolls: Who in the East played against a tougher slate than did Utica last season, in your opinion?)
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                          • #14
                            Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

                            Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                            No, you don't... Not if the UC -and the W as a whole- continue to dominate SOME OF THE WEAKEST TEAMS IN DIII IN THEIR OOC teams, while UC wins a lot of W contests and enjoys some success in their very important annual games v. Oswego. (That's pretty-much how SOS works: you try to beat teams that beat a lot of other teams, right?)
                            So then why do they play a lot of teams well below .500 ? Oh that's right....

                            Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                            If your point is that Utica plays a few crap-teams every year, well, so what; that much is inevitable playing a D-3 schedule in the East. There are a bunch of crap-teams out here, and UC is by no means playing more than their fair share of them, while playing multiple games against the top-tier.
                            Keep beating your drum....it's been shown to you "so many times" how weak of a schedule Utica plays and how the ECAC West (especially Utica) stacks their schedule against the weaker 1/3 of DIII (yes its one thing to play weak teams, its another to schedule the weakest teams) year in year out and how that inflates the wonderful OOC record you want to gloat about. You don't want to accept that fact.

                            Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                            It's really not that hard to figure-out, Joe. The only consistent juggernauts East of the Hudson are NU and Platty anyway, and they reportedly don't have enough wiggle-room to schedule anybody in the W with regularity... Ergo, Utica plays about as tough a schedule as it can possibly arrange.
                            If Utica actually traveled, they might find some more teams to play...... Probably part of the reason why they have as many wins as UMASS Dartmouth do in the NCAA's.....

                            Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
                            (And, just for fun, I'll ask you the same question that has gone unanswered so many times by so many trolls: Who in the East played against a tougher slate than did Utica last season, in your opinion?)
                            Do we have to go over this again? You say its gone unanswered but it HAS been answered "so many times", you just fail to accept it.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Utica College Pioneers '13-'14 = Lewiston or Bust

                              Originally posted by PSUChamps2001 View Post
                              So then why do they play a lot of teams well below .500 ? Oh that's right....



                              Keep beating your drum....it's been shown to you "so many times" how weak of a schedule Utica plays and how the ECAC West (especially Utica) stacks their schedule against the weaker 1/3 of DIII (yes its one thing to play weak teams, its another to schedule the weakest teams) year in year out and how that inflates the wonderful OOC record you want to gloat about. You don't want to accept that fact.



                              If Utica actually traveled, they might find some more teams to play...... Probably part of the reason why they have as many wins as UMASS Dartmouth do in the NCAA's.....



                              Do we have to go over this again? You say its gone unanswered but it HAS been answered "so many times", you just fail to accept it.
                              +1
                              Larry Normandin
                              SUNY Cobleskill '83-SUNY Plattsburgh '00

                              Temper is one thing you can't get rid of by losing it.

                              God gave everyone patience-The wise use it.

                              Trust is like paper - Once crumbled it can never again be perfect.

                              Twitter w/ Bob Emery

                              WIRY (Windows Player)
                              WIRY (Chrome/Android Player)

                              Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand!

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