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Wholin1
07-30-2013, 08:16 PM
Wow,a real body blow. Didn't see this one coming. I hope it works out for him, but the money looks meager and he passes up on his degree, at least for now. This may seem like sour grapes but I really don't see him as NHL caliber.

UnionFan4Life
07-30-2013, 09:19 PM
Hello everybody, what is your lineup predictions now that Jooris is gone? Here's mine:

1: Carr---Ikkala---Wilkins
2: Hatch---Novak---Sullivan
3: Ciampini---Gonye---Cruice
4: Lichtenwald---Roy---Hynes

D1: Bodie/Gingras
D2: Gostisbehere/Vasaturo
D3: Boyle/Krug

G: Stevens, Sakellaropolous, Pieri

-This team is kind of thin at the center position. One of the big question marks is who will be the #1 center with Jooris and Kyle Bodie gone. I don't see Cole or Roy as the answer, they are more of the grinder type, third or fourth line centers. As for now, Cole is my #1.
-I really like the Hatch/Novak/Sullivan line and expect big things from them this year.
-Carr and Wilkins need to step up and have big years.
-I'm excited to see the 6'6'' Eli play with Roy and just destroy people.
-This lineup seems to be bigger than last year.
-The defense should be solid again, hopefully Boyle and one of the freshman step up so we have a solid 6. I'm happy with the top 4 though.
-I can't stand Ciampini, he has zero puck handling skills and always loses the puck when he gets it. I hope one of the freshman wingers can replace him.

C-H-C
07-30-2013, 10:43 PM
Hello everybody, what is your lineup predictions now that Jooris is gone? Here's mine:

1: Carr---Ikkala---Wilkins
2: Hatch---Novak---Sullivan
3: Ciampini---Gonye---Cruice
4: Lichtenwald---Roy---Hynes


You might be pleasantly surprised with Mike Vecchione.

Hokydad
07-31-2013, 10:58 AM
You might be pleasantly surprised with Mike Vecchione.

Pleasantly?? He will be top 2 lines

Also, Jeff Taylor will be a top 5 on D side.

Wicked Slappaahs
07-31-2013, 12:40 PM
Calgary Sun article on Flames rebuilding and Jooris.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/31/calgary-flames-finding-rebuild-a-selling-point-for-young-players

Wholin1
07-31-2013, 02:25 PM
Calgary Sun article on Flames rebuilding and Jooris.
http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/07/31/calgary-flames-finding-rebuild-a-selling-point-for-young-playersAs disappointing as it may be to college hockey fans, the trend toward signing college players with remaining eligibility is not likely to go away and I realistically think it will accelerate. The pros have little to lose by signing kids to deals like Jooris'. If he makes it they are ahead of the game if he doesn't they are out a relative pittance. I don't want to lose players, but by the same token, give me kids who want to be here. I'm happy to let the dice roll with those we have. It may be some tough sledding, but it will be easy to root for them.

rdf8585
07-31-2013, 04:04 PM
On the positive side, it does say a lot about the coaching staff that they can find these players and develop them into something NHL teams want.

rdf8585
07-31-2013, 08:09 PM
New recruit for 2014-2015 - Roman Ammirato out of the CCHL...

http://bit.ly/13o7ik3

Wholin1
07-31-2013, 08:55 PM
New recruit for 2014-2015 - Roman Ammirato out of the CCHL...

http://bit.ly/13o7ik3 Helps to remove some of the disappointment over the past 24 hrs. He could be a good fit though a bit on the diminutive side.

Muskieman
07-31-2013, 09:04 PM
The Jooris signing really took me by surprise. The timing being so late made me not-so-fondly remember when the Rangers signed SLU forward Brandon Dietrich, after his sophomore season and on Draft Day in June of '01. While today's news is a setback for the U, it is also a positive that the program now has players of Jooris' and Grosenik's caliber.

Good luck to the U this season and beyond.

Wholin1
07-31-2013, 09:19 PM
I'm curious whether any other college players got snatched up out of these NHL development camps? If so or if it becomes a trend I could see the NCAA taking a look at changing the rules. I never understood how they let it pass anyway. I know the players are not under contract and pay their own way, but still, when you look at the Mickey Mouse stuff they crack down on it seems incongruous. Why not NFL or MLB development camps?

I am pretty po'd at Jooris the more I think about it. He let down his team and his coaches. All they asked of their kids was to let them know in time to not hurt the team. Welsh, Grosenick and Kinkaid all did so. Really selfish in my view.

rdf8585
07-31-2013, 09:53 PM
I'm curious whether any other college players got snatched up out of these NHL development camps? If so or if it becomes a trend I could see the NCAA taking a look at changing the rules. I never understood how they let it pass anyway. I know the players are not under contract and pay their own way, but still, when you look at the Mickey Mouse stuff they crack down on it seems incongruous. Why not NFL or MLB development camps?

I am pretty po'd at Jooris the more I think about it. He let down his team and his coaches. All they asked of their kids was to let them know in time to not hurt the team. Welsh, Grosenick and Kinkaid all did so. Really selfish in my view.

I can tell you're not happy. I think this is the most blunt you've been on these forums.

I agree that it's a pretty lousy rule.

While the Union staff stressed telling them early, by all accounts this contract only came about through development camp earlier this month. You could argue he shouldn't have taken it as a courtesy to Union, knowing they would be hard pressed to recover so late in the summer. Then again, it's hard to pass up a professional contract, something that might be offered once in a lifetime. It's a tough situation all around.

The biggest issue is why college players are even allowed to attend NHL development camps without losing eligibility.

Bill
07-31-2013, 09:55 PM
I'm curious whether any other college players got snatched up out of these NHL development camps? If so or if it becomes a trend I could see the NCAA taking a look at changing the rules. I never understood how they let it pass anyway. I know the players are not under contract and pay their own way, but still, when you look at the Mickey Mouse stuff they crack down on it seems incongruous. Why not NFL or MLB development camps?

LSSU lost Kyle Jean (after his sophomore season) in July of last year after he had a good summer camp with the Rangers, who subsequently signed him.

UnionFan4Life
07-31-2013, 11:02 PM
I'm curious whether any other college players got snatched up out of these NHL development camps? If so or if it becomes a trend I could see the NCAA taking a look at changing the rules. I never understood how they let it pass anyway. I know the players are not under contract and pay their own way, but still, when you look at the Mickey Mouse stuff they crack down on it seems incongruous. Why not NFL or MLB development camps?

I am pretty po'd at Jooris the more I think about it. He let down his team and his coaches. All they asked of their kids was to let them know in time to not hurt the team. Welsh, Grosenick and Kinkaid all did so. Really selfish in my view.
I agree with you 100%. On the bright side, I have a feeling we have a very strong recruiting class coming in and should be able to make some noise this year. Jooris, Welsh, Grosenick, and Kinkaid going to the AHL/NHL makes the school look good and hopefully more attractive for potential recruits.

On a side note, does anybody know when season tickets become available?

rdf8585
08-01-2013, 01:10 AM
Jooris, Welsh, Grosenick, and Kinkaid going to the AHL/NHL makes the school look good and hopefully more attractive for potential recruits.

You would think so, but that's not the case. I asked Bennett about it in March.

I wrote this within a piece in March:

Kinkaid isn't the only other recent Union player to have gone on to the pro ranks. Forward Kelly Zajac and defenseman Nolan Julseth-White are currently on American Hockey League rosters (Albany and Providence, respectively) while forward Jeremy Welsh is with Carolina in the National Hockey League.

That has to look impressive to potential recruits, right?

"I'd like to think it does help, but we've heard a lot of 'no' through our recruiting battles this year," Bennett said. "To say it has pushed over the edge in recruiting, I can't say that it has."

CollegeHockeyRinkReport
08-01-2013, 01:48 AM
I'm curious whether any other college players got snatched up out of these NHL development camps? If so or if it becomes a trend I could see the NCAA taking a look at changing the rules. I never understood how they let it pass anyway. I know the players are not under contract and pay their own way, but still, when you look at the Mickey Mouse stuff they crack down on it seems incongruous. Why not NFL or MLB development camps?

I am pretty po'd at Jooris the more I think about it. He let down his team and his coaches. All they asked of their kids was to let them know in time to not hurt the team. Welsh, Grosenick and Kinkaid all did so. Really selfish in my view.

http://sbn.to/15hs4A3

Tony Turgeon of UNO left school earlier in July after attending Florida's D Camp.

ADK11
08-01-2013, 10:49 AM
Recruiting class is announced http://www.unionathletics.com/news/2013/8/1/MICE_0801135120.aspx

Noah Henry is in this fall, so looks like Tyler Hynes will come in 2014. Probably makes sense given that Tyler had a bit of a tough transition in the USHL this past year. Also interesting that Bennett says Lichtenwald is a center (he had been listed as a wing). Given the lack of true centers on the team, he and Gonye may be given opportunities right off the bat.

You can also count me as shocked by Jooris leaving. He would have been the most skilled forward on the team and a likely leading scorer in the Simpson mold. His loss also leaves a huge hole at center. Novak is probably the top returning center on paper, but the makeup of the top two lines is much more in question now, specifically who to put with Carr and/or Wilkins. I'd be surprised if one of the freshmen centers are put in the top 2 lines and would not be surprised if one of the returning players is "converted" to center. I really don't see Ikkala or Roy having the hand skills to be on the top line.

I also wonder if the coaches will look at having Pontarelli come a year early. I find it interesting that a new (good) recruit from Cornwall is announced shortly after Jooris leaves, and you have to wonder how much Pontarelli will have to gain by another year in the CCHL. Jooris leaving definitely puts Vecchione in the mix for top 6, so could have Pontarelli learning the ropes on the 3rd line. Another skilled stick would give more depth to the PP too. This is all conjecture on my part, but I notice that Pontarelli tweets with the Spink brothers at Colgate so he should have a pretty good perspective on what it takes to make the jump to NCAA.

Wicked Slappaahs
08-01-2013, 12:22 PM
I can tell you're not happy. I think this is the most blunt you've been on these forums.

I agree that it's a pretty lousy rule.

While the Union staff stressed telling them early, by all accounts this contract only came about through development camp earlier this month. You could argue he shouldn't have taken it as a courtesy to Union, knowing they would be hard pressed to recover so late in the summer. Then again, it's hard to pass up a professional contract, something that might be offered once in a lifetime. It's a tough situation all around.

The biggest issue is why college players are even allowed to attend NHL development camps without losing eligibility. It isn't just NHL camps, if I'm not mistaken, players can attend Major Jr. camps also without getting sideways with the NCAA.

I can't honestly see how you can be mad at Jooris. Yes, the timing stinks. By all accounts had a great camp and it sounds like the Flames told him the depth chart is wide open. There are no guarantees in this world - he could've returned for his senior year and blown his knee out in week 3.

You can disagree with his decision, but don't begrudge the kid for chasing the dream. Just my two pennies.

rdf8585
08-01-2013, 12:35 PM
Here's what I put together on the incoming recruits:

http://unionhockeynews.blogspot.com/2013/08/dutchmen-announce-2013-2014-recruiting.html

Capsules on each with insight from their previous coaches or Bennett.

rdf8585
08-01-2013, 02:28 PM
2014-2015 recruit Roman Ammirato will play for Amarillo in the North American Hockey League in the upcoming season.