Maine 2012-13 Part 3D: Still digging

[sandiegoblkbr]

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UMaine winter sports teams are now 16-59-6 vs. D-1 competition.

[revoman]

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UMaine winter sports teams are now 16-59-6 vs. D-1 competition.

aren't you just a ray of sunshine on this chilly morning...

[KnowItAll]

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aren't you just a ray of sunshine on this chilly morning...

you would prefer that he tells us about all those frozen fours?

hehe heh heh

[DoubleA]

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All the buzz on BDN comments section and the Fire Tim Whitehead Facebook group is this http://www.westerncollegehockeyblog....ine/in/3651717

Jeff Cox has been writing about this for a while. Go back to his Hockey East - First Half Scorecard or Report Card. He wrote a short concise highly accurate report on Maine. He can tell you what you want to hear, or he can tell you the truth. And he chooses to write the truth, coupled with his opinion that Whitehead's time has come and gone. He is from the East Coast even though he is affiliated with westerncollegehockeyblog.com. He knows his stuff and he is objective. Pretty good comparatively speaking.

The comments section in the BDN is a mixed bag, mostly calling for Whitehead's ouster, much like this thread. Duh! At least it is widespread commentary for the public to read. Some commenters appear to have a little pulse on what's going on with the program. Some of the commenters have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. "Jackson Jackson" infers that he was a hockey player, purports to have analyzed what's happening in the Maine Hockey Program, and thinks that the coaching is not the problem. He's a moron. Writes a lot and says nothing; makes no point. He'd get eaten alive on this thread and justifiably so. You should have to pass a test to be able to post on BDN or USCHO.

[blackbearbandie]

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The comments section in the BDN is a mixed bag, mostly calling for Whitehead's ouster, much like this thread. Duh! At least it is widespread commentary for the public to read. Some commenters appear to have a little pulse on what's going on with the program. Some of the commenters have absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

New BDN Article to comment on...

Last-place Maine hockey team faces daunting schedule but are ready to tackle task

By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted Jan. 21, 2013, at 5:17 p.m.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/01/2...o-tackle-task/

ORONO, Maine — It appears to be a daunting task.

When looking at the University of Maine men’s hockey team’s remaining schedule, it is going to take a dramatic turnaround for the Black Bears to make the Hockey East playoffs.

Eight of the 10 teams qualify but Maine is currently in last place, four points adrift of Northeastern and Vermont, who are tied for eighth place. Maine has played one fewer game than Northeastern and Vermont.

Making matters worse is six of Maine’s final 13 games are against front-runners Boston College, New Hampshire and Boston University.

This weekend, Maine visits Boston College’s Conte Forum, where the Black Bears haven’t won since Oct. 28, 2005. Maine is 0-8-1 in its last nine visits to Chestnut Hill, Mass.

The Bears finish the regular season at UNH’s Whittemore Center, where they haven’t won since Feb. 4, 2005. Maine has lost nine straight in Durham.

Boston University visits Alfond Arena on Feb. 15-16 and the Terriers have made Alfond Arena their home away from home. The Terriers are 7-1-2 in their last 10 trips to Orono.

Maine will also visit UMass for a pair (Feb. 22-23) and Vermont (Feb. 9) for one while hosting Northeastern for two (March 1-2) and Providence (Feb. 1) and UMass Lowell (Feb. 3) for single games.

Maine’s goal-scoring woes continue as the Black Bears are 58th among 59 teams in goals per game (1.52) and on the power play (9 percent efficiency rate).

Maine junior left wing Mark Anthoine feels the Black Bears can use the challenging schedule to their advantage despite their struggles this season, as they are 5-14-4 overall and 1-9-4 in Hockey East.

“Being an underdog is always a benefit,” said Anthoine. “Teams could take us lightly. They may not be on the top of their game.”

Senior left wing Adam Shemansky said they can’t dwell on the schedule.

“We know they’re a great team with a lot of firepower. But there’s parity all over the place in Hockey East,” Shemansky said. “Even when we were at the top of the standings the last few years, we had to be ready for everybody.”

He said it doesn’t matter who they play or where, they have to stick to the game plan if they’re going to have success.

“We all have to be on the same page. If we do that, we feel we’ll give ourselves a chance to win, especially with the way our goaltenders have been playing,” said Shemansky.

Maine will enter the Friday-Saturday night series winless in its last five games (0-3-2).

The tie and loss to Merrimack this past weekend left the Bears staring at an 0-8-3 home record. Maine has been outscored 34-14 at Alfond Arena.

A frustrating aspect of Maine’s 5-14-4 record is the fact that it has been involved in 19 games decided by one goal or less, excluding empty-net goals. Maine is 5-9-4 in those games.

“We’re getting there. We’re taking steps, small steps. If we keep going and stick with the path, we’re going to win some of these games. We’re getting a lot of good experience in tight games,” said Shemansky. “We have to use [the close games] as motivation to keep going. There’s no sense getting down.”

“[The close games] puts things into perspective,” said Anthoine. “Some of those games, we just didn’t get the right bounces. In other games, maybe we had a breakdown or two. We’re still trying to put the puzzle together.

“It’s frustrating,” he added. “You’re on the edge of your seat the whole time. Half the time, we come back and are so close but we don’t end up grabbing the points.”

Anthoine said the locker room atmosphere has been positive.

“We’ve stayed together as a team,” said Anthoine. “We’re still a really good family. We’re pushing through. We aren’t giving up. We’ve had consistently good goaltending, which is a huge factor for us. We’ve got to compete for 60-65 minutes every night.”

Freshman center Devin Shore said the close scores “show how close we are. We just have to do that little bit extra to turn those [losses and ties] into wins. We have to have the right mindset. We have to go into games expecting to win and doing what it takes to win. If we can keep our confidence up, keep a positive attitude and go out there loving to play, good things can happen.”

[walrus]

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Anthoine said the locker room atmosphere has been positive

I hear otherwise?

[UncleRay]

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If the locker room atmosphere is positive for a team with Maine's record, that scares me even more. I'd honestly be happier to hear him say that they are all at each others' throats.

[Ma#1ne Hky]

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New BDN Article to comment on...

Last-place Maine hockey team faces daunting schedule but are ready to tackle task

By Larry Mahoney, BDN Staff
Posted Jan. 21, 2013, at 5:17 p.m.
http://bangordailynews.com/2013/01/2...o-tackle-task/

ORONO, Maine — It appears to be a daunting task.

When looking at the University of Maine men’s hockey team’s remaining schedule, it is going to take a dramatic turnaround for the Black Bears to make the Hockey East playoffs.

Eight of the 10 teams qualify but Maine is currently in last place, four points adrift of Northeastern and Vermont, who are tied for eighth place. Maine has played one fewer game than Northeastern and Vermont.

Making matters worse is six of Maine’s final 13 games are against front-runners Boston College, New Hampshire and Boston University.

This weekend, Maine visits Boston College’s Conte Forum, where the Black Bears haven’t won since Oct. 28, 2005. Maine is 0-8-1 in its last nine visits to Chestnut Hill, Mass.

The Bears finish the regular season at UNH’s Whittemore Center, where they haven’t won since Feb. 4, 2005. Maine has lost nine straight in Durham.

Boston University visits Alfond Arena on Feb. 15-16 and the Terriers have made Alfond Arena their home away from home. The Terriers are 7-1-2 in their last 10 trips to Orono.

Maine will also visit UMass for a pair (Feb. 22-23) and Vermont (Feb. 9) for one while hosting Northeastern for two (March 1-2) and Providence (Feb. 1) and UMass Lowell (Feb. 3) for single games.

Maine’s goal-scoring woes continue as the Black Bears are 58th among 59 teams in goals per game (1.52) and on the power play (9 percent efficiency rate).

Maine junior left wing Mark Anthoine feels the Black Bears can use the challenging schedule to their advantage despite their struggles this season, as they are 5-14-4 overall and 1-9-4 in Hockey East.

“Being an underdog is always a benefit,” said Anthoine. “Teams could take us lightly. They may not be on the top of their game.”

Senior left wing Adam Shemansky said they can’t dwell on the schedule.

“We know they’re a great team with a lot of firepower. But there’s parity all over the place in Hockey East,” Shemansky said. “Even when we were at the top of the standings the last few years, we had to be ready for everybody.”

He said it doesn’t matter who they play or where, they have to stick to the game plan if they’re going to have success.

“We all have to be on the same page. If we do that, we feel we’ll give ourselves a chance to win, especially with the way our goaltenders have been playing,” said Shemansky.

Maine will enter the Friday-Saturday night series winless in its last five games (0-3-2).

The tie and loss to Merrimack this past weekend left the Bears staring at an 0-8-3 home record. Maine has been outscored 34-14 at Alfond Arena.

A frustrating aspect of Maine’s 5-14-4 record is the fact that it has been involved in 19 games decided by one goal or less, excluding empty-net goals. Maine is 5-9-4 in those games.

“We’re getting there. We’re taking steps, small steps. If we keep going and stick with the path, we’re going to win some of these games. We’re getting a lot of good experience in tight games,” said Shemansky. “We have to use [the close games] as motivation to keep going. There’s no sense getting down.”

“[The close games] puts things into perspective,” said Anthoine. “Some of those games, we just didn’t get the right bounces. In other games, maybe we had a breakdown or two. We’re still trying to put the puzzle together.

“It’s frustrating,” he added. “You’re on the edge of your seat the whole time. Half the time, we come back and are so close but we don’t end up grabbing the points.”

Anthoine said the locker room atmosphere has been positive.

“We’ve stayed together as a team,” said Anthoine. “We’re still a really good family. We’re pushing through. We aren’t giving up. We’ve had consistently good goaltending, which is a huge factor for us. We’ve got to compete for 60-65 minutes every night.”

Freshman center Devin Shore said the close scores “show how close we are. We just have to do that little bit extra to turn those [losses and ties] into wins. We have to have the right mindset. We have to go into games expecting to win and doing what it takes to win. If we can keep our confidence up, keep a positive attitude and go out there loving to play, good things can happen.”

I can't believe it anymore,the comments by Shore...I mean lets get "REAL"...this is not a good team and a team going nowhere's but finishing the season on a losing note more times then not...they are 5-14-4 for that reason...TW is the big part,but his players are following the Pied Piper in echoing EXCUSES...until there's a change then there won't be any hope next season either and you can bet on that.

[rufus]

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“We’re getting there. We’re taking steps, small steps. If we keep going and stick with the path, we’re going to win some of these games. We’re getting a lot of good experience in tight games,” said Shemansky. “We have to use [the close games] as motivation to keep going. There’s no sense getting down.”

Christ, he sounds just like TIMMAY.

[revoman]

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If the locker room atmosphere is positive for a team with Maine's record, that scares me even more. I'd honestly be happier to hear him say that they are all at each others' throats.

Remember where it's coming from... Kaka rolls down hill, and if they are being told it's ok to be mediocre at best and they'll "get 'em next time" then by all means they will believe it.

The responsibility to get that extra bit, that extra effort from the players, resides with the coaching staff, and the head coach in particular. Tim has proven again and again that his is not a motivator. He does not have the ability to get these young men fired up; to challenge them to be better when it counts. We have seen this since he arrived, and it has become more apparent over time.

[BoSox3066]

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Eh what do you want the kids to say? We quit? They're going to show up at the rink and try to play hard and try to enjoy it and try to win a hockey game. They have to look for something, positive, mentally. And if they hate the guy, their teammates or the program they're not going to say so on the record in the BDN in the middle of the season.

[rufus]

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Right. TIMMAY's whole shtick is to say to them "don't worry about it, we'll just keep working on those little things in practice, and we'll keep getting better day by day".

They lose a game: No big deal, we'll fix a few things and we'll get them next time.
They make a mistake: Don't worry about it, we can correct that in practice. Unless he benches them instead.
Haven't won a game at home all season: Don't worry about it, we keep working and it'll come eventually.

There's no urgency, no playing with a sense of desperation, no do or die mentality, because you know, if it doesn't work out, there's always the next game, or next week, or next season. Just once I'd like to see them leave it all on the ice for one game, like it's the last game they'll ever play.

[BassAle]

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you want to see, on the same slide, salaries going this way and ticket revenue going the other.
(and make sure to adjust the salary for the local cost of living... I do not want to hear that Jerry York or Mark Dennehy make "X" while timmy makes "Y"... A house in Bangor costs about half to a third of what Dennehy's house costs..)

$190K in penobscot county is certainly top 1%, while $190 in andover or boston is probably about top 45%.

45%? I doubt 45% of people in Boston make more than 190K. I think I read a report that the average salary in Boston is in the 40s, but of course a professional senior level salary is going to be much higher.


just for fun, I just used a cost of living calculator that says $190K in Bangor would require$266K in Boston to maintain the same standard of living. It also says that the average salary is 25% higher in Boston so one could expect to make around $238K doing the same job in Boston.

[Fishman'81]

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Interesting stuff.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that I could have coached Maine to a 5-14 start, just by dumping a bucket of pucks on the ice every day, and telling them to do whatever their HS/Junior coaches had already told them to do in practice... And I'll do it for $180K a year!

[sandiegoblkbr]

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If the locker room atmosphere is positive for a team with Maine's record, that scares me even more. I'd honestly be happier to hear him say that they are all at each others' throats.

Exactly!

What in the name of Jim Jones is going on up there?!?!?