Considering I am new to the college hockey world, as my daughter is a freshman, do D1 teams take walk-ons or non-requites that tryout? and if so will it affect a scholarshiped player's ice time?
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Originally posted by hockeymomfromtheeast View PostConsidering I am new to the college hockey world, as my daughter is a freshman, do D1 teams take walk-ons or non-requites that tryout? and if so will it affect a scholarshiped player's ice time?
- Recruited walk-ons - In women's ice hockey, schools usually want more players than they have scholarships available. So they will recruit some players to be "recruited walk-ons". This means that they do not get an athletic scholarship, but they get the support of the coaches in the admission process and may get preferential treatment in the financial aid process, especially for other merit aid (academic or other non-athletic merit aid) and for need-based aid potentially as well.
- True walk-on - These are kids that the coaches did not support in the admission process (may not even have known about) who try out.
Many Division 1 schools have recruited walk-ons, but these players are well know to the coaches because they went through the standard recruiting process and are usually part of the announced recruiting class. It depends a large amount on the specific school and coach whether they will consider a true walk-on. Strong schools with a large number of scholarships and the ability to get recruited walk-ons have little/no need for true walk-ons, so I believe it would be VERY difficult to even get a chance to tryout if you are not recruited.
Coaches don't want to look stupid, so they are naturally going to initially give preference to their scholarship players, followed by the recruited walk-ons. Some coaches will never change that approach. Others will put the best players on the ice regardless of their financial aid status (RPI as an example has had some instances of non-scholarship kids playing over scholarship kids). This one is really coach specific.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostThere are really two types of walk-ons:
- Recruited walk-ons - In women's ice hockey, schools usually want more players than they have scholarships available. So they will recruit some players to be "recruited walk-ons". This means that they do not get an athletic scholarship, but they get the support of the coaches in the admission process and may get preferential treatment in the financial aid process, especially for other merit aid (academic or other non-athletic merit aid) and for need-based aid potentially as well.
- True walk-on - These are kids that the coaches did not support in the admission process (may not even have known about) who try out.
Many Division 1 schools have recruited walk-ons, but these players are well know to the coaches because they went through the standard recruiting process and are usually part of the announced recruiting class. It depends a large amount on the specific school and coach whether they will consider a true walk-on. Strong schools with a large number of scholarships and the ability to get recruited walk-ons have little/no need for true walk-ons, so I believe it would be VERY difficult to even get a chance to tryout if you are not recruited.
Coaches don't want to look stupid, so they are naturally going to initially give preference to their scholarship players, followed by the recruited walk-ons. Some coaches will never change that approach. Others will put the best players on the ice regardless of their financial aid status (RPI as an example has had some instances of non-scholarship kids playing over scholarship kids). This one is really coach specific.
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Originally posted by OneTimer View PostYou are exactly correct. Would you agree that recruited walk-on and non-scholarship player is only a matter a semantics or is there a practical difference as you see it?
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostWell, a non-scholarship player could be a true walk-on so I guess that is a practical difference. But other than that pretty much the same.
I have been mistaken before though"A ROCK BAND IS NOT A PERFECT DEMOCRACY. IT'S LIKE A SPORTS TEAM. NO ONE CAN DO WITHOUT THE OTHER, BUT EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET TO TOUCH THE BALL ALL THE TIME." Don Henley
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Originally posted by UCONN FAN View PostI bet Hux can attest to the last statement...........kidding"A ROCK BAND IS NOT A PERFECT DEMOCRACY. IT'S LIKE A SPORTS TEAM. NO ONE CAN DO WITHOUT THE OTHER, BUT EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET TO TOUCH THE BALL ALL THE TIME." Don Henley
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Originally posted by UCONN FAN View PostLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think he knows better."A ROCK BAND IS NOT A PERFECT DEMOCRACY. IT'S LIKE A SPORTS TEAM. NO ONE CAN DO WITHOUT THE OTHER, BUT EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET TO TOUCH THE BALL ALL THE TIME." Don Henley
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostWell, a non-scholarship player could be a true walk-on so I guess that is a practical difference. But other than that pretty much the same.
Would that be like Jorden Brickner who transferred to Wisconsin from Colgate last season?
She had to be a last minute pick up for Wisconsin ?
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Originally posted by UCONN FAN View PostLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think he knows better.
Basically, what it comes down to is paperwork. A recruited walk-on will have been given the necessary NCAA paperwork prior to her arrival on campus and been cleared to play. A true walk-on generally comes out of the blue, so to speak, and has to come to tryouts and fill out the paperwork and go through the approval process.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View Post(RPI as an example has had some instances of non-scholarship kids playing over scholarship kids).
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Originally posted by Ralph Baer View PostI suppose that you can't divulge who you are referring to, but assuming that you are referring to the women's team, it has been rare for RPI to have had more players than they can dress, especially after a couple of injuries hit.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostDon't want to get into specifics to your point and you are correct that they have been frequently short-handed, but even with the players who dress, there have been a couple of non/less than full-scholly players playing over scholly players the past few years based on my observation and conversations. They may have more scholarships now then they did previously (heard something about that somewhere), so this may change.
Supposedly RPI has been giving out the maximum allowed 18 scholarships since their fourth year in D-I.
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