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Ryecheers
12-13-2012, 09:53 AM
I believe there is a reduced fee for students and recent grads. It might represent one hour's wages or a game ticket (for which students usually don't pay for).

You'll get much broader discussions and info.

You can do it!:cool:

SkinsFan09
12-18-2012, 03:24 PM
A couple of weeks ago I ran into a hockey agent...err, advisor...who advises a player that is committed to NU. I talked to him for a while and asked very pointed questions about JM. He said JM is very much respected, well liked, and is viewed as a good coach. He also said there aren't concerns about NU and the current situation is being viewed from the outside as rebuilding. Take it for what it's worth...

This is not a rebuild, this is a joke. And it will not get better. Mark my words. Until Roby is gone, realizes his mistake or we get a real coach. Maybe the captain's practices over break get us a couple wins. Viewed as a good coach by who? Loyalists who cannot see the light.

Askew to BU by the way. That didn't take long.

steve66
12-19-2012, 04:30 AM
This is not a rebuild, this is a joke. And it will not get better. Mark my words. Until Roby is gone, realizes his mistake or we get a real coach. Maybe the captain's practices over break get us a couple wins. Viewed as a good coach by who? Loyalists who cannot see the light.

Askew to BU by the way. That didn't take long.

The fact that he got a kid of that caliber to commit to NU was a shocker anyway. Did anyone really think he was coming?

SkinsFan09
12-19-2012, 08:24 AM
The fact that he got a kid of that caliber to commit to NU was a shocker anyway. Did anyone really think he was coming?

I don't really care that he decommitted. 8th grade is ridiculous to be committing to anything at that age. A 14 year old decommitting is far from any immediate worry. And it wasn't that much of a shocker, considering Cronin got Gaudreau, Oleksiak and Ryan Johansen all committed here.

The fact remains this team is regressing under JM. To be 0-17-3 when trailing after two periods is pathetic for a coaching regime. And he didn't inherit a garbage team, he inherited a team that beat BU in a playoff series. In 49 games we have been outshot 39 times. And of course on TV we are 0-6.

I don't see this getting better. Olsson, Benning and Szmatula are not going to change the lack of proper coaching.

PPGuru
12-19-2012, 10:00 AM
The most amazing thing about the above post is that Oleksiak actually made it to campus.

Nick Papagiorgio
12-19-2012, 10:25 AM
The fact remains this team is regressing under JM. To be 0-17-3 when trailing after two periods is pathetic for a coaching regime.

:confused:

The numbers for most programs aren't that much better with this statistic.

northeastern
12-19-2012, 01:08 PM
This is not a rebuild, this is a joke..

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I was kinda hoping the Mayans were right about 2012 so we could just re boot.. :)

Anyhow.. hopefully we fare better in the New Year. Well, Happy Holidays everyone!

SkinsFan09
12-19-2012, 01:09 PM
:confused:

The numbers for most programs aren't that much better with this statistic.

It's not a statistic you want in the first place as ideally you'd be up after two. But to not have won a single game trailing after two is insane. In 20 tries? Every blind squirrel finds a nut at some point.

4-15-1 on the road in Hockey East. Six blown leads during that stretch.

Nick Papagiorgio
12-19-2012, 01:41 PM
But to not have won a single game trailing after two is insane.

But it isn't. That's my point.

Take out the top 10 teams nationally from the league and you have zero wins in the trailing after 2 situation (aside from NU).

UVM 0-8-1
PC 0-6-1
MC 0-5-1
UML 0-5-0
UMA 0-5-1
Maine 0-6-1

After a while you'll watch enough hockey and realize this is par for the course. What you don't do is conclude that the coach is to blame for not winning a game in which his team trailed going into the 3rd. Blame him for having so many of those situations? Sure. But using this stat as the basis for why Madigan stinks was kind of foolish.

steve66
12-19-2012, 02:16 PM
I don't really care that he decommitted. 8th grade is ridiculous to be committing to anything at that age. A 14 year old decommitting is far from any immediate worry. And it wasn't that much of a shocker, considering Cronin got Gaudreau, Oleksiak and Ryan Johansen all committed here.

The fact remains this team is regressing under JM. To be 0-17-3 when trailing after two periods is pathetic for a coaching regime. And he didn't inherit a garbage team, he inherited a team that beat BU in a playoff series. In 49 games we have been outshot 39 times. And of course on TV we are 0-6.

I don't see this getting better. Olsson, Benning and Szmatula are not going to change the lack of proper coaching.

HA, the team that beat BU, you are saying last years team was comparable? OK that team that beat BU in the qtrs they lost

MaCleod
McNeely
Silva
Reid
Oleksiak

Top 4 scorers and best defense man. Can't even compare the team. Also Oleksiak only came here cause he wanted to go to school in 2010 and BU had no money left and they were trying to get him to go in 11.

SkinsFan09
12-19-2012, 02:41 PM
But it isn't. That's my point.

Take out the top 10 teams nationally from the league and you have zero wins in the trailing after 2 situation (aside from NU).

UVM 0-8-1
PC 0-6-1
MC 0-5-1
UML 0-5-0
UMA 0-5-1
Maine 0-6-1

After a while you'll watch enough hockey and realize this is par for the course. What you don't do is conclude that the coach is to blame for not winning a game in which his team trailed going into the 3rd. Blame him for having so many of those situations? Sure. But using this stat as the basis for why Madigan stinks was kind of foolish.

I've watched hockey my whole life. Not going to address that statement beyond that.

Second, I'm not using it as my sole point so don't put words in my mouth. I've brought up other depressing stats and plenty of reasons throughout this thread. And I don't expect any team to magically pull off tons of 3rd period comebacks. Also your stats are through a handful of games, now find the stats through 20 games for all those teams. It's tough to win from behind, and I certainly blame him partially for the team being down after two so often. Especially this season, I don't know what is up with NU after the first period but it's as if every team makes adjustments and we don't.

Now, the blame isn't solely on Madigan also. The players have no excuse to flat out quit, I don't care how tired you are of losing or the coaching, at worst, give it 100% 60 minutes a game and there have been a couple of times this season where you have to wonder, did they just quit?

SkinsFan09
12-19-2012, 02:48 PM
HA, the team that beat BU, you are saying last years team was comparable? OK that team that beat BU in the qtrs they lost

MaCleod
McNeely
Silva
Reid
Oleksiak

Top 4 scorers and best defense man. Can't even compare the team. Also Oleksiak only came here cause he wanted to go to school in 2010 and BU had no money left and they were trying to get him to go in 11.

And they added Saponari, Roy and Karlsson. That's a I can 100% understand how the defense is suffering but with the talent on this team they should not be having the kind of offensive woes they are having. The defense actually, until injuries began piling, played well above what most thought they would this year. But we are barely scoring two goals per right now. You're assuming everything is in place and we just aren't shooting sharply enough, I believe we do not have the best combinations/systems to put players where they need to be in addition to our lack of finishers which has always been a problem.

It's not as if this team with a different coach would magically be a guaranteed home ice squad, I don't agree with that, but the systems we are running are not self-sustaining and they do not create consistent pressure. Don't even want to get in to the PP and PK. As passive as can be.

steve66
12-19-2012, 04:12 PM
And they added Saponari, Roy and Karlsson. That's a I can 100% understand how the defense is suffering but with the talent on this team they should not be having the kind of offensive woes they are having. The defense actually, until injuries began piling, played well above what most thought they would this year. But we are barely scoring two goals per right now. You're assuming everything is in place and we just aren't shooting sharply enough, I believe we do not have the best combinations/systems to put players where they need to be in addition to our lack of finishers which has always been a problem.

It's not as if this team with a different coach would magically be a guaranteed home ice squad, I don't agree with that, but the systems we are running are not self-sustaining and they do not create consistent pressure. Don't even want to get in to the PP and PK. As passive as can be.

Maybe you should put in for the job. I really don't see this talent, sorry Saponari may be better than Silva but that is it. Roy has talent but after that...

Motorboaters
12-19-2012, 06:56 PM
...Especially this season, I don't know what is up with NU after the first period but it's as if every team makes adjustments and we don't.

Now, the blame isn't solely on Madigan also. The players have no excuse to flat out quit, I don't care how tired you are of losing or the coaching, at worst, give it 100% 60 minutes a game and there have been a couple of times this season where you have to wonder, did they just quit?

The failure to make any type of adjustments after the first period is what scares me. Every single game I have seen thus far, NU comes out firing in the first and plays pretty well to start off. Once the second period begins, it's as though the team was deprived of oxygen in the locker room and they look completely flat. That is why they are not scoring in the second and third periods.

SkinsFan09
12-19-2012, 07:14 PM
Maybe you should put in for the job. I really don't see this talent, sorry Saponari may be better than Silva but that is it. Roy has talent but after that...

We have five 20 point scorers returned from last year not including Roy who will hit 35-40 points this year despite our offensive ineptitude. That should result in more than barely two goals per game. You seem to think the systems are amazing and we just don't use them right.

RossiRules
12-19-2012, 09:29 PM
Askew commits to BU. Go figure.
Oh, why? Need you even ask?

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/high-school/post/_/id/21113/cushings-askew-commits-to-boston-university

northeastern
12-19-2012, 11:01 PM
Oh, why? Need you even ask?

Rossi, who askew? ..

it's Christmas.. don't get madigan.
:)

BrocktonNU
12-20-2012, 12:26 AM
Hey guys, new here. Just decided to pursue my masters at NU so it's time to get behind my new school and team. Grew up my whole life a BC fan (though never attended the school) across the board so mediocrity is nothing new to me. Was a casual BC Hockey fan but now trading in my maroon and gold for Husky black and red. Since I really only followed college hockey to track NHL prospects, I got a lot to learn. Looking forward to taking in a game at Matthews in the near future. Happy holidays!

Thiessen'sBetter
12-20-2012, 12:40 AM
It's not a statistic you want in the first place as ideally you'd be up after two. But to not have won a single game trailing after two is insane. In 20 tries? Every blind squirrel finds a nut at some point.

4-15-1 on the road in Hockey East. Six blown leads during that stretch.

An even more telling statistic to me is that Madigan has not won a conference game in which the opponent scored first. He's 0-13-3. To compare, the 08-09 team was 6-5-3 when they got scored on first. I don't know if its lack of faith in the coach, the goaltender, their scoring ability or a combination of all three, but this team completely shuts it down when they get down early.

Thiessen'sBetter
12-20-2012, 12:45 AM
Hey guys, new here. Just decided to pursue my masters at NU so it's time to get behind my new school and team. Grew up my whole life a BC fan (though never attended the school) across the board so mediocrity is nothing new to me. Was a casual BC Hockey fan but now trading in my maroon and gold for Husky black and red. Since I really only followed college hockey to track NHL prospects, I got a lot to learn. Looking forward to taking in a game at Matthews in the near future. Happy holidays!

Welcome aboard! Hope your liver is ready to be an NU fan.