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2012-13 Incoming Freshman Classes Write-Up
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Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View PostWasn't really funny there either."The man who smiles when something has gone wrong just thought of someone to blame it on." Robert Bloch
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Originally posted by JDUBBS1280 View PostClearly you need one after that joke crashed and burned."If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
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i doubt you will find any more talented a player than taylor cammarata. most points as a 16 year old ever in the USHL- and outscored nathan mackinnon when they were teammates at shattuck st marys. hopefully a 4 year guy due to his size...
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Originally posted by jerryj View Posti doubt you will find any more talented a player than taylor cammarata. most points as a 16 year old ever in the USHL- and outscored nathan mackinnon when they were teammates at shattuck st marys. hopefully a 4 year guy due to his size...@MNState0fHockey on Twitter
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Originally posted by thetruthhurts View PostI actually have a hard time putting the gophers in the top ten recruiting class this year
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Originally posted by mnstate0fhockey View PostI really think Mike Reilly and Brady Skjei are going to be good, but I agree with you. There are recruiting classes not listed that I would probably put ahead of Minnesota's this year as well. Most notably, in my opinion, Wisconsin's.
Connor Reilly far outproduced Zulinick in the BCHL... hell, even Ryan Reilly outproduced Zulinick last season. I grant you that both of the Reillys are older than Zulinick and that certainly plays a role (although Connor had about a 40 pt USHL season a year before)... but the point is you can't say he is really any kind of advantage for UW compared to them. I'd even be willing to debate that if you put Michaelson in the BCHL, he would have been in the same ball park statistically as Zulinick and they are more similar in age.
No doubt Kerdiles is the best forward recruit this year for either club but when you look at the advantages I laid out above, I think your comment can easily be debated.
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Originally posted by Hammy View PostI think it is a stretch to say UW's is better this year. Reilly and Skjei are superior defenseman to either Wittchow or Schulze. That's not even a debate.
Connor Reilly far outproduced Zulinick in the BCHL... hell, even Ryan Reilly outproduced Zulinick last season. I grant you that both of the Reillys are older than Zulinick and that certainly plays a role (although Connor had about a 40 pt USHL season a year before)... but the point is you can't say he is really any kind of advantage for UW compared to them. I'd even be willing to debate that if you put Michaelson in the BCHL, he would have been in the same ball park statistically as Zulinick and they are more similar in age.
No doubt Kerdiles is the best forward recruit this year for either club but when you look at the advantages I laid out above, I think your comment can easily be debated.
7 of the top 9 scorers in the BCHL were Penticton players. There's a residual effect here. There were 9 kids from Penticton (1st place team) that outscored the leading scorer on Salmon Arm (15th place team). You're not exactly dealing apples to apples here.
If you put Jack Connolly on Alaska Anchorage who's leading scorer had 17 points, does he score 60 points and win the Hobey? No, not even close.
I'm far from a genius, but I do know that there's more too it than simply comparing points across the board when trying to project how good a player is going to be.
How many points does Zulinick put up if he's playing for Penticton? Who knows, but I know it's more than the 66 he had with Salmon Arm.Last edited by Chuck Schwartz; 09-07-2012, 01:52 AM.
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Originally posted by Chuck Schwartz View PostI don't know (or care) who has a better class, but I will add debating points is a sketchy argument, especially when considering the Penticton players.
7 of the top 9 scorers in the BCHL were Penticton players. There's a residual effect here. There were 9 kids from Penticton (1st place team) that outscored the leading scorer on Salmon Arm (15th place team). You're not exactly dealing apples to apples here.
If you put Jack Connolly on Alaska Anchorage who's leading scorer had 17 points, does he score 60 points and win the Hobey? No, not even close.
I'm far from a genius, but I do know that there's more too it than simply comparing points across the board when trying to project how good a player is going to be.
How many points does Zulinick put up if he's playing for Penticton? Who knows, but I know it's more than the 66 he had with Salmon Arm.Fly Eagles Fly!!!
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Originally posted by Hammy View PostI think it is a stretch to say UW's is better this year. Reilly and Skjei are superior defenseman to either Wittchow or Schulze. That's not even a debate.
Reilly vs Schultz
Both players are lefty, similar in size, 93 birth years and what I would catorgize as "skilled defenseman". Both players will struggle with the physicality of the game due to their size.
Schultz is a excellent skater, the best of all of 93 birth years from MN, with Reilly not even in the top five. Ben Marshall, a young 92 is also excellent skater, with explosive starts. Schultz is a better skater than Marshall, but lacks those first two steps.
Reilly has mad, mad hand skills and offensively is very creative with a hockey sense that is off the charts. He has the best hands skills of all the 93's from Minnesota.
Schultz will be the better defender in 5 on 5 due to his skating and is very capable of running the point on the power play. I also think Schultz will do a better job jump starting the transition game with the 1st pass.
Reilly will be the better power play defenseman due to his superior offensive hand skills, creativity and hockey sense.
Up next, Skjei vs Whittchow comparison. Got to do some work now, I follow up his afternoon.
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Originally posted by Chuck Schwartz View PostI don't know (or care) who has a better class, but I will add debating points is a sketchy argument, especially when considering the Penticton players.
I really don't expect any Gopher frosh forward to do much this year. The team is too stocked up front to expect them to get much prime time in the scoring roles. I doubt he'll have any more than 15 to 20 points this year simply because the Gophers won't need that given their top two lines are essentially filled with very good returning players.
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Originally posted by thetruthhurts View PostHammy, I'm your huckleberry......
Reilly vs Schultz
Both players are lefty, similar in size, 93 birth years and what I would catorgize as "skilled defenseman". Both players will struggle with the physicality of the game due to their size.
Schultz is a excellent skater, the best of all of 93 birth years from MN, with Reilly not even in the top five. Ben Marshall, a young 92 is also excellent skater, with explosive starts. Schultz is a better skater than Marshall, but lacks those first two steps.
Reilly has mad, mad hand skills and offensively is very creative with a hockey sense that is off the charts. He has the best hands skills of all the 93's from Minnesota.
Schultz will be the better defender in 5 on 5 due to his skating and is very capable of running the point on the power play. I also think Schultz will do a better job jump starting the transition game with the 1st pass.
Reilly will be the better power play defenseman due to his superior offensive hand skills, creativity and hockey sense.
Up next, Skjei vs Whittchow comparison. Got to do some work now, I follow up his afternoon.
Reilly is clearly a player on the rise and is the better player. His defense is very much underrated as he showed by his performance at the US Camp (where was your boy at the US Camp if he's such an equal?). It's not all offense with him. It just tends to overshadow his smart position play. I don't disagree that the physical maturity will need work though.
Feel free to write all you want about either. It won't change the reality of what pretty much every paid talent evaluator will tell you.Last edited by Hammy; 09-07-2012, 10:15 AM.
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