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Ralph Baer
12-02-2012, 03:28 AM
Congrats to the Engineers on an important 4-3 win at Princeton. I wasn't able to see the game, but based on Livestats it looks like it was a wild one. RPI outshot Princeton 27-16 but almost let it get away after taking a 3-0 lead into the third period. Kelly Cooke scored a natural hattrick for the Tigers including 2 shorthanded goals on the same penalty. This should be a big morale boost to the Engineers. With Colgate also upsetting Clarkson today the conference got a whole lot more interesting.

The second shorty was awarded to another player. Would it be considered a natural hattrick since RPI scored a goal during that time?

Hockeydad4two
12-02-2012, 11:58 AM
The second shorty was awarded to another player. Would it be considered a natural hattrick since RPI scored a goal during that time?

I always thought a "natural" was when you scored 3 in a row without the other team scoring.

hab
12-02-2012, 03:53 PM
Yeah, you're both right RB and HD42, it wasn't even close to a natural hat trick :o. Livestats originally gave all three goals to Cooke, but I see that the box scores now show Cooke with only an assist on the second, and in any event the RPI goal between the second and third Tiger goals makes it all moot. Would be interested in hearing an account from anyone who saw the game as to what happened on that RPI power play in the third.

Big weekend coming up for the four bottom teams in the ECAC, all with 2 points and playing each other (Yale and Brown at Union and RPI). A four point weekend for any one of them will position them well for a run at the playoffs, and anyone who comes out empty handed will have dug a deep hole for themselves.

hab
12-07-2012, 08:41 AM
Anyone know of the status of Kristen Jakubowski? She was sidelined for much of last season and the early part of this season recovering from a concussion, came back Nov.9 and scored a goal against Princeton and then was injured in the next game against Quinnipiac and I don't think we have seen her in the lineup since. It would be great to see her back on the ice, but in any event we hope she is doing okay.

lugnut92
12-08-2012, 08:42 PM
FOUR POINT WEEKEND!!!

This is big. We're going to have to scrap for points all season, so taking the four "easiest" we'll have all year is big. Hopefully we can steal some along the way to keep us in the playoff hunt.

hab
12-09-2012, 05:01 PM
Trivia time: I suspected that this combined 7-point weekend for the men's and women's Engineers teams was a rare event (during the 8-year Div 1 era for the women), so I went back and checked. They have had 3 other 7-point weekends and one 8-pointer. The last 7 point weekend was Jan 22-23, 2010, when the women beat Dartmouth and Harvard on the road while the men beat Dartmouth and tied Harvard at home. The only 8 point weekend was a non-conf weekend, Oct. 19-20, 2007 when the women beat Maine twice and the men beat Army and Sacred Heart. They followed up the following weekend with 7 points when the women tied Yale and beat Brown while the men beat Union and Colgate. The other 7-pointer was Oct 24-25, 2008 when the women beat Niagara twice and the men tied Union and beat RMU.

D2D
12-09-2012, 07:49 PM
Trivia time: I suspected that this combined 7-point weekend for the men's and women's Engineers teams was a rare event (during the 8-year Div 1 era for the women), so I went back and checked. They have had 3 other 7-point weekends and one 8-pointer. The last 7 point weekend was Jan 22-23, 2010, when the women beat Dartmouth and Harvard on the road while the men beat Dartmouth and tied Harvard at home. The only 8 point weekend was a non-conf weekend, Oct. 19-20, 2007 when the women beat Maine twice and the men beat Army and Sacred Heart. They followed up the following weekend with 7 points when the women tied Yale and beat Brown while the men beat Union and Colgate. The other 7-pointer was Oct 24-25, 2008 when the women beat Niagara twice and the men tied Union and beat RMU.

Our Minnesota teams do not have any 8 point weekends this season either, but you sure can't put ANY of the blame for that on the women!

Eeyore
12-09-2012, 10:41 PM
Our Minnesota teams do not have any 8 point weekends this season either, but you sure can't put ANY of the blame for that on the women!

Not true. Oct. 12/13 and Nov. 23/24/25.

D2D
12-09-2012, 11:06 PM
Not true. Oct. 12/13 and Nov. 23/24/25.

I was referring to league points that count in the WCHA standings.

ARM
12-09-2012, 11:42 PM
I was referring to league points that count in the WCHA standings.In that case, Minnesota had eight points a week ago (it helps that the women get 6 points for a sweep ;)).

D2D
12-10-2012, 12:11 AM
In that case, Minnesota had eight points a week ago (it helps that the women get 6 points for a sweep ;)).

Excellent! And taking that into account, we had 9 points this past weekend, when the men beat and tied Colorado College! Women 6 + Men 3 = 9!

(but it should have been 10 :()

Stat Man
12-10-2012, 01:27 PM
Anyone know of the status of Kristen Jakubowski? She was sidelined for much of last season and the early part of this season recovering from a concussion, came back Nov.9 and scored a goal against Princeton and then was injured in the next game against Quinnipiac and I don't think we have seen her in the lineup since. It would be great to see her back on the ice, but in any event we hope she is doing okay.

Sorry to report but her hockey career is over. Really not worth the risk of another major setback in order to play a few games.

She is moving on and is halfway through her Masters and is hoping to start on her PHd in September. We wish her the best of luck in her future endeavours.

FlagDUDE08
12-10-2012, 01:29 PM
Sorry to report but her hockey career is over. Really not worth the risk of another major setback in order to play a few games.

She is moving on and is halfway through her Masters and is hoping to start on her PHd in September. We wish her the best of luck in her future endeavours.

Sorry to hear, but I suppose discretion is the better part of valor.

Stat Man
12-10-2012, 01:50 PM
Trivia time: I suspected that this combined 7-point weekend for the men's and women's Engineers teams was a rare event (during the 8-year Div 1 era for the women), so I went back and checked. They have had 3 other 7-point weekends and one 8-pointer. The last 7 point weekend was Jan 22-23, 2010, when the women beat Dartmouth and Harvard on the road while the men beat Dartmouth and tied Harvard at home. The only 8 point weekend was a non-conf weekend, Oct. 19-20, 2007 when the women beat Maine twice and the men beat Army and Sacred Heart. They followed up the following weekend with 7 points when the women tied Yale and beat Brown while the men beat Union and Colgate. The other 7-pointer was Oct 24-25, 2008 when the women beat Niagara twice and the men tied Union and beat RMU.

Not sure what this means except we are desperate to look for something good from the firsat half of the season. Lets not delude ourselves here we played some teams with issues this weekend Brown were lucky to have 3 scoring opporunities all game and two of them came in the third on the 5 on 3 power play where they had a full two minutess of 6 on 3 and managed to get 3 shots on net getting the game total to 10. Half of the ten were dump ins so there was little or no chance to lose that game.

On Saturday against Yale we were very lucky to score late for the 4 to 3 win but this Yale team is injury riddled and plays with 4 D most of the time. They had a fifth D who just came back and had 3 assists but she is also playing injured. This is a team that averages 1.23 goals per game all season and has been shut out six times and held to 1 goal three other games. So giving up 3 goals against this team is hardly a great defensive performance.

The girls did manage to get the two wins they needed in the standings but this is hardly an indication of a righting of the ship and most of the first half issues remain unresolved.

Ralph Baer
12-10-2012, 03:34 PM
Sorry to report but her hockey career is over. Really not worth the risk of another major setback in order to play a few games.

She is moving on and is halfway through her Masters and is hoping to start on her PHd in September. We wish her the best of luck in her future endeavours.

Do you know what the situations are with the other players who haven't suited up recently?

Stat Man
12-10-2012, 03:54 PM
Do you know what the situations are with the other players who haven't suited up recently?

Not aware of any injuries that are keeping players out. I would say those not playing are due to being in the coaches doghouse. Which appearently is quite large these days.

Stat Man
12-10-2012, 03:56 PM
Do you know what the situations are with the other players who haven't suited up recently?

Sorry missed one Padmore has a concussion and Mazzario suffered a suspected concussion on Friday vs Brown.

Ralph Baer
12-10-2012, 03:57 PM
Not aware of any injuries that are keeping players out. I would say those not playing are due to being in the coaches doghouse. Which appearently is quite large these days. I figured that since they were suiting up fewer than the max for several games, it was injuries or illnesses. Thanks for the correction.

Edit: Just read your other post.

hab
12-10-2012, 08:08 PM
Not sure what this means except we are desperate to look for something good from the firsat half of the season. Lets not delude ourselves here we played some teams with issues this weekend Brown were lucky to have 3 scoring opporunities all game and two of them came in the third on the 5 on 3 power play where they had a full two minutess of 6 on 3 and managed to get 3 shots on net getting the game total to 10. Half of the ten were dump ins so there was little or no chance to lose that game.

On Saturday against Yale we were very lucky to score late for the 4 to 3 win but this Yale team is injury riddled and plays with 4 D most of the time. They had a fifth D who just came back and had 3 assists but she is also playing injured. This is a team that averages 1.23 goals per game all season and has been shut out six times and held to 1 goal three other games. So giving up 3 goals against this team is hardly a great defensive performance.

The girls did manage to get the two wins they needed in the standings but this is hardly an indication of a righting of the ship and most of the first half issues remain unresolved.

Not sure what this means but I think that whether or not you see some positive in the first half of the season may depend on what your expectations were. I expected RPI to again be on the cusp of the playoffs, either narrowly missing or narrowly making the top eight. With that expectation in mind (and expecting that Yale and Brown will have to be two of the four teams they put behind them), I consider this last weekend to be a big step forward. The only other point I wanted to make is that given that the men's team has not had its most glorious years in the past eight (when we have had two Div 1 teams), it has been rare that we have come out of the weekend happy with the performance of both.

Stat Man
12-11-2012, 06:50 AM
Not sure what this means but I think that whether or not you see some positive in the first half of the season may depend on what your expectations were. I expected RPI to again be on the cusp of the playoffs, either narrowly missing or narrowly making the top eight. With that expectation in mind (and expecting that Yale and Brown will have to be two of the four teams they put behind them), I consider this last weekend to be a big step forward. The only other point I wanted to make is that given that the men's team has not had its most glorious years in the past eight (when we have had two Div 1 teams), it has been rare that we have come out of the weekend happy with the performance of both.

I think that is the point we should be happy with the result, but the performance in attaining the result was not so good.