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LSSULaker889294
04-08-2012, 01:13 PM
I wonder when an offical announcement will be made? Hopefully this isn't another Notre Dame.

bigmrg74
04-09-2012, 01:24 AM
I wonder when an offical announcement will be made? Hopefully this isn't another Notre Dame.Hell, how long has UCONN been kicked around about them making the move to Hockey East? Heck, probably about as long as the dreaded formation of the Big Ten Hockey Conference has been on USCHO.

RSTuthill
04-09-2012, 09:21 AM
I wonder when an offical announcement will be made? Hopefully this isn't another Notre Dame.
Guessing this month one way or the other, but it might slip into May.

Jim
04-09-2012, 10:44 AM
Guessing this month one way or the other, but it might slip into May. My guess is late this month, but Dick has way better contacts than I do.

Patman
04-09-2012, 11:15 AM
My guess is late this month, but Dick has way better contacts than I do.

If I were a betting man I'd say that HEA comes out with a statement applauding their research and interest but saying they need to have further evidence of a commitment.

The UConn proposal turns the wheels but none of the actions are firm decisions as such and every option has concrete drawbacks.

RSTuthill
04-09-2012, 11:48 AM
My guess is late this month, but Dick has way better contacts than I do.
No contacts at all. Just reading the tea leaves.

RSTuthill
04-09-2012, 11:51 AM
Did I hear correctly that the league vote on UConn is set for this Thursday(4/12)?
Nice first post, Ursula. You have heard more than we have. Sounds early to me but if it is a done deal then Thursday could be the day.

Edit: After watching the Rich Coppola piece on Fox 61 in Hartford I would have to say it is indeed a done deal. Wow!! We have waited so so so long for this! Some of us have been fans since the late 1980's.

Jim
04-09-2012, 05:18 PM
If I were a betting man I'd say that HEA comes out with a statement applauding their research and interest but saying they need to have further evidence of a commitment.

The UConn proposal turns the wheels but none of the actions are firm decisions as such and every option has concrete drawbacks.I doubt it. I think this is a done deal and if UCONN needs a few more weeks, even a month or so to finalize the details, they'll get it. Not certain its accurate since my contacts are pretty limited, but my understanding is the Hockey East approached UCONN, not the other way around. If that is true, and I have no idea whether it is, UCONN will be given all the time it needs, within reason, to make the move.

Patman
04-09-2012, 05:23 PM
Well, my perspective, I would be incredibly disappointed if they didn't make UConn write something in stone. IMO, given the current proposals things won't work. Further, I'd make sure that UConn's commitment couldn't be walked back without penalty.

ericredaxe
04-09-2012, 05:26 PM
So assuming this goes forward (we know they were looking for a 12th team anyway)... what will it be? 22 league games with travel partners?

Takes away the "home and homes" which is a negative IMO... but I can't imagine they would do home and homes if you only play each team twice in a season.

brassbonanza
04-09-2012, 05:35 PM
So assuming this goes forward (we know they were looking for a 12th team anyway)... what will it be? 22 league games with travel partners?

Takes away the "home and homes" which is a negative IMO... but I can't imagine they would do home and homes if you only play each team twice in a season.

Why need travel partners? It's the same thing as it's always been with Maine and UVM, except ND is another two game series. You either do two one-off games, or a weekend home and home/2 game series. UConn to every school except UVM/Maine/ND is a doable one day trip without any problem. Something tells me there would be major protest from BU, BC, and UNH if this meant they would all have to wait two years in between playing each other at home when there's no reason to.

Craig P.
04-09-2012, 06:36 PM
How I'd do scheduling in a 12-team Hockey East:

22 league games, two against each opponent.

Eight teams deemed to be close enough to the "center" of the league to play home-and-homes; their schedule amongst themselves is entirely home-and-home series (seven home-and-home series).

Four teams: Maine, Vermont, ND, and one other (UConn most likely) are deemed to be sufficiently "distant" that they play all-home or all-away series. Split up their play with the other eight teams, and two of their companions, and you have five home series and five away series for them (and have completed the schedule for the other eight teams). These teams do require accommodation for the last series. It has to be home-and-home; for distance reasons, I'd recommend making it one-off games for ND and whoever their scheduling partner is, but the other two teams could probably do a Friday-Sunday if they wanted to.

End result: 22 games with a perfect 11-game split home vs. away for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not practical to get a completely balanced schedule in place, and it will have an impact on schedule difficulty.

sandiegoblkbr
04-09-2012, 08:09 PM
How I'd do scheduling in a 12-team Hockey East:

22 league games, two against each opponent.

Eight teams deemed to be close enough to the "center" of the league to play home-and-homes; their schedule amongst themselves is entirely home-and-home series (seven home-and-home series).

Four teams: Maine, Vermont, ND, and one other (UConn most likely) are deemed to be sufficiently "distant" that they play all-home or all-away series. Split up their play with the other eight teams, and two of their companions, and you have five home series and five away series for them (and have completed the schedule for the other eight teams). These teams do require accommodation for the last series. It has to be home-and-home; for distance reasons, I'd recommend making it one-off games for ND and whoever their scheduling partner is, but the other two teams could probably do a Friday-Sunday if they wanted to.

End result: 22 games with a perfect 11-game split home vs. away for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not practical to get a completely balanced schedule in place, and it will have an impact on schedule difficulty.

I like your schedule.........Maine and UNH should play home and away every year (Fri/Sun).

be711
04-09-2012, 09:05 PM
Well, my perspective, I would be incredibly disappointed if they didn't make UConn write something in stone. IMO, given the current proposals things won't work. Further, I'd make sure that UConn's commitment couldn't be walked back without penalty.

I don't think UConn would even be this deep into the talks if they weren't serious about it. This isn't something you can half *** and they know that. UConn has shown in the past that when they make up their minds to do something they do it right. Remember football has been to what 5 bowl games in 7 seasons as a Big East member, not to mention a top 10 practice facility in the country. Basketball was nothing when they joined the Big East 20 years ago, and they now have 3 national championships. If they do it I have faith that they are going to do it right

Patman
04-09-2012, 09:17 PM
I don't think UConn would even be this deep into the talks if they weren't serious about it. This isn't something you can half *** and they know that. UConn has shown in the past that when they make up their minds to do something they do it right. Remember football has been to what 5 bowl games in 7 seasons as a Big East member, not to mention a top 10 practice facility in the country. Basketball was nothing when they joined the Big East 20 years ago, and they now have 3 national championships. If they do it I have faith that they are going to do it right

We'll see... I just don't see HCC/XL or expanded Frietas as long term solutions. I'm also fairly aware of UConn's history... you can't be a sports fan, spend five years there, and learn nothing.

ericredaxe
04-09-2012, 09:35 PM
How I'd do scheduling in a 12-team Hockey East:

22 league games, two against each opponent.

Eight teams deemed to be close enough to the "center" of the league to play home-and-homes; their schedule amongst themselves is entirely home-and-home series (seven home-and-home series).

Four teams: Maine, Vermont, ND, and one other (UConn most likely) are deemed to be sufficiently "distant" that they play all-home or all-away series. Split up their play with the other eight teams, and two of their companions, and you have five home series and five away series for them (and have completed the schedule for the other eight teams). These teams do require accommodation for the last series. It has to be home-and-home; for distance reasons, I'd recommend making it one-off games for ND and whoever their scheduling partner is, but the other two teams could probably do a Friday-Sunday if they wanted to.

End result: 22 games with a perfect 11-game split home vs. away for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not practical to get a completely balanced schedule in place, and it will have an impact on schedule difficulty.

Meh... as a fan, I have to say I would definitely not be in favor of both league games against one team in one weekend... that would mean we would see Northeastern, or UNH, or BC etc etc once in October then not at all, or not at all until the end of February. Can't say I'd be on board with that.

ericredaxe
04-09-2012, 09:38 PM
Why need travel partners? It's the same thing as it's always been with Maine and UVM, except ND is another two game series. You either do two one-off games, or a weekend home and home/2 game series. UConn to every school except UVM/Maine/ND is a doable one day trip without any problem. Something tells me there would be major protest from BU, BC, and UNH if this meant they would all have to wait two years in between playing each other at home when there's no reason to.

By "home and home's" I meant both games on one weekend.... meaning by going to a 22 game schedule in an 12 team league, we will likely not see scheduling where we play at BC (for example) on Friday then host BC at home on Saturday.

AMC
04-09-2012, 10:59 PM
How I'd do scheduling in a 12-team Hockey East:

22 league games, two against each opponent.

Eight teams deemed to be close enough to the "center" of the league to play home-and-homes; their schedule amongst themselves is entirely home-and-home series (seven home-and-home series).

Four teams: Maine, Vermont, ND, and one other (UConn most likely) are deemed to be sufficiently "distant" that they play all-home or all-away series. Split up their play with the other eight teams, and two of their companions, and you have five home series and five away series for them (and have completed the schedule for the other eight teams). These teams do require accommodation for the last series. It has to be home-and-home; for distance reasons, I'd recommend making it one-off games for ND and whoever their scheduling partner is, but the other two teams could probably do a Friday-Sunday if they wanted to.

End result: 22 games with a perfect 11-game split home vs. away for everyone. Unfortunately, it's not practical to get a completely balanced schedule in place, and it will have an impact on schedule difficulty.

If it means that Maine doesn't get every team through Alfond in a given season, it isn't worth it to expand, to me. BC/BU/UNH not coming to Orono in a given year is completely unacceptable.

ericredaxe
04-09-2012, 11:12 PM
If it means that Maine doesn't get every team through Alfond in a given season, it isn't worth it to expand, to me. BC/BU/UNH not coming to Orono in a given year is completely unacceptable.

Kind of along the lines of why I don't think they can do "home and homes" (on the same weekend). It will be individual games one home and one away against each team (with the possible exception of ND)... which to me is a negative as I think the "home and home" series in one weekend is a nice feature of the current Hockey East schedule.

Patman
04-09-2012, 11:46 PM
Kind of along the lines of why I don't think they can do "home and homes" (on the same weekend). It will be individual games one home and one away against each team (with the possible exception of ND)... which to me is a negative as I think the "home and home" series in one weekend is a nice feature of the current Hockey East schedule.

When its all said and done I'd bet on 26 games... at least short run... the league is going to be a little unstable for awhile.